Location: Ottawa (Now in Bangalore)
Posted on: 15-03-06 02:37:00
other languages ???
Kya Angrezi anya Bhasaon ka anth kar raha hai ?
Kya Angrezi doosre Lafzon ko Qatl kar rahi hai ?
Engriji Ki onno Bhashader Mere Phhelche ?
English, migata bhashalani Champestundi ?
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What do you say folks ?
Sorry I dont know any other language other than the above four
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I do think that english is slowly killing other languages , we all like to preserve and pass on our culture and heritage and ofcourse language to the next generation.....but then there is also the stress to learn the universally accepted language in order to succeed in the world.
I see the effect of that in this generation itself...the children of our relatives who migrated to Canada 15 yrs back..dont seem to understand much if spoken in Hindi .(that works great if parents dont want to be overheard!!
) But on the other hand its sad becoz they are disconected with their roots,they dont seem to feel the same passion towards their native land. And even with our generation...i dont know about others, but i find myself more capable of expressing my views
in english better than in urdu which i dont really think is good.
I think for all of us who have migrated here its even more imperative to try and use our native languages at home so that the kids can learn it better....
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Originally posted by Ottawa_Nerd
Kya Angrezi doosre Lafzon ko Qatl kar rahi hai ?
IMO, it should be "zubaan ki" and not "lafzon ka". "labz" means words in Urdu. ("Do Labzon Ki Hai Dil Ki Kahaani"
"Zubaan" means spoken language.I can ramble on this whole issue, but I better keep quiet. No issue with English being a dominant language, but I see a problem, when it replaces your language.
How many Gujju's use word "Safarjan" instead of "Apple", use word "pankho" instead of fan, use "Shani-ravi-som" instead of "sat-sun-mon" or "lal-pilo-vadaali" instead of red-yellow-blue??!! I am not talking about some weird translations of commonly used words like ticket ("mulya patrika"
or railway signal ('agni rath gaman-aagaman darshak harit tamra loh pattika"Still rambling....................
Meghal
Location: British Columbia
Posted on: 15-03-06 17:50:35
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Originally posted by Mishej India
I do think that english is slowly killing other languages , we all like to preserve and pass on our culture and heritage and ofcourse language to the next generation.....but then there is also the stress to learn the universally accepted language in order to succeed in the world.
I see the effect of that in this generation itself...the children of our relatives who migrated to Canada 15 yrs back..dont seem to understand much if spoken in Hindi .(that works great if parents dont want to be overheard!!
in english better than in urdu which i dont really think is good.
I think for all of us who have migrated here its even more imperative to try and use our native languages at home so that the kids can learn it better....
Your post is interesting and I wanted to reply to it. I was born and brought up in Canada and speak punjabi/hindi fairly well. I dont know every word of course but I have worked as an interpreter and having punjabi skills works well for me in BC
I dont know if I agree with language = cultural awareness/love for original country. My ties to India (through family, friends and general interest in learning about my roots) are what I feel ties me to India. I hear many people saying that they dont teach their children English because they'll pick it up in school. I disagree with this because of two reasons:
1) Young children are capable of learning many languages at the same time.
2) Communication is a very important skill throughout life. If a child is taught english (or the majority language of their home country) from home - from the day they step into the classroom they have the confidence to speak to their classmates and make friends. I have seen neices/nephews who become painfully shy from kindergarden because they cannot communicate properly with the other kids..because of their parents decisions to not teach them english. It can create barriers. Yes they will pick it up in school..but they will struggle and may be frustrated at the beginning tryng to communicate with others who do not speak their native language.
just my 0.02 cents.
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Originally posted by morning_rain
I was born and brought up in Canada and speak punjabi/hindi fairly well. I dont know every word of course but I have worked as an interpreter and having punjabi skills works well for me in BC
I dont know if I agree with language = cultural awareness/love for original country. My ties to India (through family, friends and general interest in learning about my roots) are what I feel ties me to India.
language does equal cultural awareness...at some level or atleast better cultural awareness...how would you feel a part of the place if u didnt speak the language? All i am saying is that it seems to be deteriorating.
I agree with you that kids should be taught english,u dont want your kids to feel misfits. And i'm pleased to know that you were born an bought up here and can speak hindi/punjabi well. That sure gives me hope...but then the credit definately goes to the parents. The example i stated was of the next generation....teenagers..... May be i am wrong...i hope i am.I guess at the end of the day it all boils down to what you teach your children...thats whats ultimately going to decide what their values are and howmuch they can understand their native tongue.
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Originally posted by meghal
IMO, it should be "zubaan ki" and not "lafzon ka". "labz" means words in Urdu. ("Do Labzon Ki Hai Dil Ki Kahaani"
Meghal
Am no expert in urdu but i think the correct word is Lafz.
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Well, I feel it is a phase in evolution...as of today I see English is being killed by SMS and Chats...more and more acronyms are being used and more and more english spellings are getting changed and being accepted as normal..
Just my 2 cents..
Hiren
