Muslims put out Godhra fire, says Banerjee report


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maple_asian   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-03-06 06:57:52

Muslims didn't start the fire, they tried to put out the fire abd the fire was not a conspiracy but due to an accident inside the train.

Shame on our political leaders who tried to stir communal hatred by spreading false information

'http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1643793,001301170000.htm?headline=Muslims~put~out~Godhra~fire,~says~report'

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Muslims put out Godhra fire, says Banerjee report

Vinod Sharma

New Delhi, March 6, 2006

The fire in coach number S-6 of the Sabarmati Express, on February 27, 2002, in Godhra, was 'accidental' and not caused by the use of any inflammable material. The Justice UC Banerjee Committee, which probed into the incident, is understood to have concluded this in its final report.

Sources told HT that the probe panel -- given the status of a deemed commission under the Commission of Inquiry Act, 1952 -- categorically ruled out any conspiracy to set the coach on fire from outside.

Quoting from the deposition of Raju Bhargav, the then Panchmahal SP, the report says that Muslims not only permitted the district administration to use their (community) well but also provided a pump set to draw water to douse the flames.

The SP also told the inquiry panel that he had no information about Kar Sewaks returning from Ayodhya in the train. The report said Bhargav's deposition, a confirmation of the statement made by the then Additional DGP of the state intelligence bureau RB Srikumar, reinforced the probe panel's conclusion that the incident was a "mere accident" that did not occur as part of any conspiracy.

"How could there be any conspiracy when there was no information about the return of the Kar Sewaks," the panel noted. Moreover, Bhargav observed that since 1990, there was harmony in Godhra with no incident of communal violence.

First instituted as a high-powered committee, under a retired judge of the Supreme Court, the probe panel reportedly says that it received no cooperation from the state government till it was vested with powers of a Commission of Inquiry. It summons met with no response on as many as 14 occasions.

Sources said the body of the report contains Srikumar's sensational claim that he refused to be intimidated by Gujarat Home Secretary GC Murmu, who wanted him to tell the Nanavati Commission -- appointed by the Narendra Modi regime on March 6, 2002 -- that the fire was the outcome of a conspiracy.

Apart from damning the state government machinery, the report is also harsh on the then railways minister Nitish Kumar, who had told Parliament after the change of government at the Centre that the Commissioner of Railway Safety did not probe the incident as the Nanavati Commission was already looking into the matter.

The Banerjee panel says the Nanavati Commission was constituted only on March 6 -- a good seven days after the Sabarmati tragedy. As per rules, the Commissioner of Railway Safety is expected to start probing accidents without any loss of time.

Coming down heavily on the Rail administration under Nitish, the report notes that while the Safety Commissioner failed to act, there was no internal communication for almost eight months of the decision against probing the incident.


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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-03-06 10:12:19

Its too late for anything really. Thousands dead and many more thousands displaced and that guy still is the CM. Mera Bhaarat Mahan.

I hope we all learn something from this and keep our rages and emotions under check.


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Charlie   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-03-06 10:27:47

My India is one of the largest Democracy. Death of a majority community can only be accidental. Conspiracy are against minority. First rule of democracy. Guess what Congress is in Power when report came out. So many of coincidence with same case....fire is an accident....near a criminal area...populated by Leader claiming to be Minority Leaders....being mistaken for attacking when boggie was already on fire.....Why did they carry swords....My guess to cut open gates so that karsevak can run to safety.....oh yeah, nobody was aware of karsevak traveling by that train and present in boggie S6....
Incidentally or accidentally did you get a chance to read about Jessica Lal case too....still if you trust these reports....I salute your patriotism.
My intention is not to blame minority. It was set of people "claiming" to be minority leaders, responsible for murder of men, children and women. Congress have a tendency to protect them for mutual benefits and what other way they can gain hold in Gujarat. Bastards should be shot dead!!!
Same hold true for leaders who cashed on the incident and disturbed Gujarat for over a month period. It was rape of Gujarat State during that period. Can't these people submit honest report without a fear of disturbing country politically or our population is not mature enough and to absorb honest accusations.


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Azazf   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-03-06 10:34:31

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Orginally posted by Charlie Death of a majority community can only be accidental. Conspiracy are against minority.

May be you should read some of the things VHP BJP says. Even the population increase of muslims in India is a conspiracy according to them so is a muslim marrying a hindu.

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Guess what Congress is in Power when report came out.


Congress is in power when the report for sikh riots came out as well.
At least they had the decency to strip them of their posts

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Same hold true for leaders who cashed on the incident and disturbed Gujarat for over a month period.


A month you say!! Think again. some are still living through it even now and I do not know how long they will have to live for like that.


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Charlie   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-03-06 11:02:42

So....I also said, what happened after Godhra day to muslim was a rape of democracy. You did not like that statement! I said even VHP supporters should be shot for what they did, other person doing wrong does not justify my doing wrong. I said that too. Why did you qoute stuff that brings sympathy to minority. I lost my friend, a member of majority community in that incident. You should know that his family is also living through hell. My friend, member of minority lost his belongings, he still talks to me with same relationship values.
You did agree to banerjee report. Do you know those leaders personaly that where named or you are one of those people who are against Majority.


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Azazf   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-03-06 11:27:35

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Orginally posted by Charlie
So....I also said, what happened after Godhra day to muslim was a rape of democracy. You did not like that statement! I said even VHP supporters should be shot for what they did, other person doing wrong does not justify my doing wrong. I said that too. Why did you qoute stuff that brings sympathy to minority. I lost my friend, a member of majority community in that incident. You should know that his family is also living through hell. My friend, member of minority lost his belongings, he still talks to me with same relationship values.
You did agree to banerjee report. Do you know those leaders personaly that where named or you are one of those people who are against Majority.



I am not arguing what you are saying, I just added stuff to it and corrected a couple points which I thought were not well put.

I do not have anything against majority and besides even if I did, meain kya ukhad lunga :D and as they say,
samundar mein rehna hai to magarmach se bair nahi karte.

And you are talking about your friends who got affected..........My family got affected and plenty more relatives so this is way too personal for me then you, so dont try and compare. Every painful thing is big in its on way and changes people in ways you would not think.

And no I did not quote stuff that brings sympathy to my people.........first we do not need your sympathy or the majorities sympathy. Sympathy does not do shit. The stuff I quoted seemed biased to me and so I was discussing it.


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Charlie   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-03-06 11:43:01

OK....sorry for getting you wrong


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