Paris Burning-Can similar thing happen in Canada?


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Dips   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-11-05 11:43:31

Hi Guys

We all know what is going on in Paris currently and the reason for it.

What are the chances that similar outbreak might happen in Canada, if not now, some time in future?





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dimple2001   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-11-05 14:48:13

It could happen anywhere. We've seen or heard about the riots primarily by blacks in Los Angeles after the acquitting of the cops involved in the Rodney King beating. A similar thing happened in a small town of Benton Harbor, Michigan involving alleged police brutality against a black person. Similar riots in Cincinnatti by Blacks against police racism and discrimination.

These riots were the outcome of racism and oppression - perceived or otherwise. It happened among people who are US Citizens, leave alone immigrants.

Could it happen in Canada? Sure.

I guess the bigger question is how is the Canadian living environment, society, culture different from France or Europe in general. What can the country do to maintain harmony on a long term? What can employers and communities do to maintain and integrate immigrants? What can we, as immigrants, do to maintain long term harmony? Something to think about, eh?


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crenshaw   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-11-05 15:39:22

The immigrants coming into Canada are ‘by and large’ a lot different from those moving into parts of Europe……its far less likely that an educated immigrant will go around smashing cars and burning tires to make his / her point.

With the exception of Caribbeans, I imagine that children of Canadian immigrants are also far less likely to drop out of school at a young age, which is again a contrast from the bunch in Europe.

Riots could break out of course, for any reason, I just don't think it would be caused by immigrants.



morning_rain   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-11-05 15:48:13

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Orginally posted by crenshaw

The immigrants coming into Canada are ‘by and large’ a lot different from those moving into parts of Europe……its far less likely that an educated immigrant will go around smashing cars and burning tires to make his / her point.

With the exception of Caribbeans, I imagine that children of Canadian immigrants are also far less likely to drop out of school at a young age, which is again a contrast from the bunch in Europe.

Riots could break out of course, for any reason, I just don't think it would be caused by immigrants.



Crenshaw... hey

From what I understand, drop out rates are not determined by nationality or citizenship but by how well a student has been doing academically, whether they have 2 parents at home (or single parented), whether they are male or female (females tend to stay in school longer according to stats can survey I found ) and I wonder how different that is from Europe.

Why do you feel riots could not be caused by Immigrants? I recently read my home town - Winnipeg - is plagued by problems related to a gang of African origin - all young immigrant males.

just my $0.02


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alexm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-11-05 23:44:45

I think what Crenshaw meant was that potential Canadian immigrants have to meet minimum eligibility criteria, including education. People falling in these categories are less likely to resort to physical violence.

The African gangs you refer to are probably refugees.

A few comments made here may not have been 'politically correct' but they are true.

Btw, I was living in Cincy the times the riots occurred. The kid whom they shot was running away from the police and had already committed some crimes, albeit minor. What everybody conveniently forgot was that the kid should not have run in the first place.

IMO, police in the States are BY AND LARGE fair; they have a very tough job which is not made easier by groups like the NAACP and ACLU. Anything and everything is branded as rascist. My few encounters with the police, speeding, being pulled up after leaving a bar, were very courteous. They could have easily had me on a DUI but let me go given that I passed a basic sobriety test.



dimple2001   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-11-05 10:20:28

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IMO, police in the States are BY AND LARGE fair; they have a very tough job which is not made easier by groups like the NAACP and ACLU. Anything and everything is branded as rascist. My few encounters with the police, speeding, being pulled up after leaving a bar, were very courteous. They could have easily had me on a DUI but let me go given that I passed a basic sobriety test.



Interestingly enough, police chases or pull overs on Blacks seem to be branded as racism by fools like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and NAACP gets up all in arms. That's why I mentioned "perceived or otherwise".

I have to agree with alexm...I was once pulled over 15 years ago in the US and I didn't know I was being asked to pull over and I kept driving (this was 2 months after I got my license) until the cop passed me and honked and asked me to pull over. The cop was in an unmarked car. The cop was quite polite even though I created a risk situation for him.


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transmogrifier   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-11-05 16:22:54

Quote:
Orginally posted by crenshaw

The immigrants coming into Canada are ‘by and large’ a lot different from those moving into parts of Europe……its far less likely that an educated immigrant will go around smashing cars and burning tires to make his / her point.

With the exception of Caribbeans, I imagine that children of Canadian immigrants are also far less likely to drop out of school at a young age, which is again a contrast from the bunch in Europe.

Riots could break out of course, for any reason, I just don't think it would be caused by immigrants.



R u having come from Europe that u can to make such statements yaan yeh aap ke feelings hain. Any stats to back up ur statements?

U r saying it is far less likely that educated immie will go around smashing cars and burning tires to make a point. What is aap ka point?

What is meaning by 'by and large'.

Aren't u same aadmi that tolding peoples cannot making judgements based on newspaper articles? Aap ne aap ke statements kis pe base kiyela hai?


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